IT BEGAN WITH THE TOPIC OF SECULAR MUSIC VERSES CHRISTIAN MUSIC....
@lkgibbs20 :
Man wish I was here for the secular rap talk. Here's my thoughts on it. Secular means non-religious, which is diff. from anti-Christ....
@treborn :
which means Braille & Mr. J. Medeiros make secular music! & this is the great Christian musical debate. Secular vs. Gospel
@lkgibbs20
Not so treborn, Braille proclaims Christ in his songs. Secular doesn't involve a directed focus to God in music.
@treborn
I know Braille proclaims Christ, but some songs are secular aka non-religious. Braille is a smart businessman. He know how to rap
Mr. J Medeiros also directs his lyrics to God & God's love through his non-religious themes
@lkgibbs20
Well, I can't really agree with that. I think that God has used some(Frontlynaz,Braille,etc.) to express the practical implications of our faith, as I said in my album review of Frontlynaz "Game Over" project. Many people don't know how to respond to that however
Some ppl feel safe with only a @lecrae but they would have to mature and know that God uses other ppl mightly in other areas
Braille could rap in secular places Lecrae may neva go, yet Lecrae gets to go overseas
So I dont think that Braille could fall under that whole debate of how Christian rappers rap, ppl need to mature thats all
Mr. J is for the Kingdom to, he makes Jesus known sometimes the clearest and other times he does do artistically, but ppl know
@treborn
yeah. I can relate to Braille lyrics before Lecrae lyrics. Lecrae makes me think of Sin more.
ok. So is there a secular artist that does christian music or a christian artist that does secular music? Besides MA$E
@lkgibbs20
No, secular can't be Christian, its by its nature non-religious. But ppl make secular = demonic, and thats not correct
Mase is honestly on some other stuff, I don't consider him a Christian artist
The last song I heard was with him and Cam'ron, and Dasouth posted it for discussion(ppl beefed with it, they shouldnt have tho)
I won't provide a definitive answer to whether or not Mase is saved, but I see confusion following him, and Christians shouldnt have this. He has done some questionable things the last few things I've heard about him doing
@lkgibbs20
by the way, whats the diff. between Christian music and gospel music?
@treborn
Oh yeah. I meant Gospel music, not Christian. Mase might be a Christian? that makes secular music.
Im thinking of people like R.Kelly "Storm Is Over" or P.Diddy "Best Friend" making gospel songs. Are they Christian?
@lkgibbs20
Nah, they aren't Christian. They believe in God...so do demons. Christ calls for us to follow, and thats through surrender
@treborn
Christian music exemplifies the teachings of Christ. It doesn't always have to be religious. It can be shared in parables too.
Gospel music is a now popularized form of impassioned rhythmic spiritual music rooted in the solo and responsive church singing
Gospel music is central to the development of rhythm and blues and of soul music. Think Elvis, or Johnny Cash
This is in reguards to Lamar defining secular as non-religious. A lot of Christian artists make secular music.
@lkgibbs20
They believe in God...so do demons. Christ calls for us to follow, and thats through surrender
@treborn
FULL-SUBMISSION or it's REV 3:16
@justparadox
"which means @braillehiphop @mrjmedeiros make secular music" I disagree COMPLETELY Mr J is very Socially Conscious & Braille is too
"I know Braille proclaims Christ but some songs are secular aka nonreligious" all his songs seem to be Christian Rap 2 me
@treborn
I'll make you a compilation. I have every Braille song (not including collabs for other artists).
@justparadox
I have pretty much all of Braille's releases i've listened to his music & his crew and label
Christian rap to me isn't putting doctrine or Jesus name in it socially conscience and responsible songs including social justice
"@MrJMedeiros also directs his lyrics to God & God's love through his non-religious themes" making his music spiritual not secular
@treborn
& that's the difference between Gospel & Christian music
"I can relate to Braille lyrics before Lecrae lyrics Lecrae makes me think of Sin more" cause God cares about life not just sin
"there a secular artist that does christian music or a christian artist that does secular?" no Christianity is multifaceted deeper
@treborn
that would define it as Gospel which r.Kelly & p.Diddy makes. Not always. But churches play gospel music from secular artists
@justparadox
Im thinking of people like R.Kelly "Storm Is Over" or P.Diddy "Best Friend" making gospel songs. Are they Christian? NO NOT EVEN
"Xiamusic exemplifies the teachings of Christ It doesnt always have 2be religious It can be shared n parables too" true it is Xian
Gospel music is central 2 the development of R&B & soul music Think Elvis, or Johnny Cash" U can call it Gospel but its nto Xian
@treborn
which leads me to think: if you have a Ministry, that doesn't (always) mean you are a disciple of Christ?
@justparadox
A lot of Christian artists make secular music" I disagree many serve meat in parables, proverbs & poems its still Christian
Churches may play gospel but its not spiritual if the church plays a R Kelly or P Diddy song still secular
He speaks to listeners shares from his life, about his wife, family, faith... its a wholistic message not just salvation one part
@treborn
yeah! Exactly. I love @braillehiphop cuz he speaks life. Not just a big "Sin No More"! He speaks to listeners not at them!
If Christians follow Christ isn't that Secular? = not pertaining to or connected with religion @LkGibbs20 Matthew 15:8-9
What about Christian artists that do songs about Starbucks or Basketball. Those songs are secular.
but I feel you. Songs don't need a high JPM to be Christian.
Like the Bible, my Music is; Christian, Gospel, Secular, Sanctified & Multifaceted! Proverbs 8:7 Truth in the Form of Hip Hop
